Comments on: Discrimination Against Veterans http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77 Tracking the Progress of the planned third World War Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:41:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-72465 Anonymous Mon, 13 Jun 2011 01:41:15 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-72465 I have heard veteran business owners say they would never hire anyone who was not military because they will not follow orders like someone in the military. My experiences with veterans in the work place and outside of it suggests to me that some of them can never get over the programming they received. They have a lack of understanding of leadership in the civilian world. They lead by intimidation, fear, and underhanded tactics. All in the name of getting the job done of course. They expect civilians not to be smart enough to spot their tactics a mile away. They can not understand why we do not just call them on it. They do not understand how to consider all social aspects to the decisions they make because they have not had to deal with this in the military. They do not understand if I make this call then this person will think I am shit if enough people think I am shit then I am SOL. They use people until they do not have a purpose for them anymore. They are use to a strict hierarchy and much of the business world is going flat. They are use to black and white when most of the world is grey. They can not understand how the bottom line is not near everything. This is choas in a business team most of all if you have a couple of veterans banding together. Is this the veterans fault? Hell no. I point my finger square at the government who needs to find a better way of helping these individuals adopt to life outside of the military! You ask them to adopt to military life, serve our country, and then you give them basically nothing to help them back to the civilian world. I pointed out the things I did in this post as a way of showing the gap between the civilian world and military world. I don't have the answers but something must be done to help everyone! I have heard veteran business owners say they would never hire anyone who was not military because they will not follow orders like someone in the military. My experiences with veterans in the work place and outside of it suggests to me that some of them can never get over the programming they received. They have a lack of understanding of leadership in the civilian world. They lead by intimidation, fear, and underhanded tactics. All in the name of getting the job done of course. They expect civilians not to be smart enough to spot their tactics a mile away. They can not understand why we do not just call them on it. They do not understand how to consider all social aspects to the decisions they make because they have not had to deal with this in the military. They do not understand if I make this call then this person will think I am shit if enough people think I am shit then I am SOL. They use people until they do not have a purpose for them anymore. They are use to a strict hierarchy and much of the business world is going flat. They are use to black and white when most of the world is grey. They can not understand how the bottom line is not near everything. This is choas in a business team most of all if you have a couple of veterans banding together. Is this the veterans fault? Hell no. I point my finger square at the government who needs to find a better way of helping these individuals adopt to life outside of the military! You ask them to adopt to military life, serve our country, and then you give them basically nothing to help them back to the civilian world. I pointed out the things I did in this post as a way of showing the gap between the civilian world and military world. I don’t have the answers but something must be done to help everyone!

]]> By: Gene Wood http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-71061 Gene Wood Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:25:53 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-71061 One of Obama's czar's had made statements last year that white men will be brought down from all levels of power. Obama's employment czar Racist Jones had stated that white males will not benefit from stimulus jobs that are being created such as highway construction and green jobs. Only Blacks and Hispanics will benefit. Talking about racist! Obama is beyond racist. He's evil and needs to be impeached and jailed with the rest of his racist scum pigs. One of Obama’s czar’s had made statements last year that white men will be brought down from all levels of power. Obama’s employment czar Racist Jones had stated that white males will not benefit from stimulus jobs that are being created such as highway construction and green jobs. Only Blacks and Hispanics will benefit. Talking about racist! Obama is beyond racist. He’s evil and needs to be impeached and jailed with the rest of his racist scum pigs.

]]> By: Gene Wood http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-71051 Gene Wood Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:18:25 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-71051 White male veterans at the McGuire Veterans Hospital in Richmond, Virginia are subject to abuse, intimidation, racial intimidation, and being refused medical care. When appointments are obtained, often they're cancelled so that blacks can fill that slot. When we dare file complaints, we suffer the consequences. Years of abuse. All government agencies follow the racist obama policies of not hiring white male veterans. As the saying goes, Women and minorities are encouraged to apply. I say obama is encouraged to shut his filthy racist mouth! I for one did not serve my country for him nor his kind!!! White male veterans at the McGuire Veterans Hospital in Richmond, Virginia are subject to abuse, intimidation, racial intimidation, and being refused medical care. When appointments are obtained, often they’re cancelled so that blacks can fill that slot. When we dare file complaints, we suffer the consequences. Years of abuse. All government agencies follow the racist obama policies of not hiring white male veterans. As the saying goes, Women and minorities are encouraged to apply. I say obama is encouraged to shut his filthy racist mouth! I for one did not serve my country for him nor his kind!!!

]]> By: Gene Wood http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-71050 Gene Wood Thu, 17 Mar 2011 21:13:53 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-71050 Obama has promised to bring white men down from all levels of power. That is racist! Obama has promised to bring white men down from all levels of power. That is racist!

]]> By: Anonymous http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-67485 Anonymous Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:07:38 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-67485 THIS IS HORRIBLE THIS IS HORRIBLE

]]> By: Jim Grant http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-62917 Jim Grant Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:30:27 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-62917 There is STILL a serious problem with hiring veterans. Just come to Colorado, and see all the minority and women owned buisnesses and the shear lack of care for the veterans in the job market. This state encourages BLATANT discrimination against WHITE MALE veterans in particular. I say that idiot of a homeland security secritary was right.............WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF REVOLT. There is STILL a serious problem with hiring veterans. Just come to Colorado, and see all the minority and women owned buisnesses and the shear lack of care for the veterans in the job market. This state encourages BLATANT discrimination against WHITE MALE veterans in particular.

I say that idiot of a homeland security secritary was right………….WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF REVOLT.

]]> By: scc http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-58623 scc Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:33:01 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-58623 You want to know the truth, I'm a women veteran and I never seen so much anti veteran sentiment comming from a government that you served and protected maybe Senator or Rep Mich- Micheal Bachman is right we need to look who is working for the government and that is senator down to who we have n the Human resource offices. One thibg that is fact and even the Federal Times publshed artticle called snubbing, that veteran prefernce has too many loop holes in it. It is not worth the paper it is written on all these Federal agenices do is go aroubd the lae, they use words like "option" it should be no option it should be veteran first and what i mean is there is 41 speacial authorities, veterans are one those special authorites, the handicap and what i mean the handicap nit by service but by nature, there own families, they are equal to us. this is wrong. We should as vbeerans be priority one inhiring we served our country and we should be able to get a job quicker then someone that stay home, or dodge the draft then some one who lost a limb protecting America. Here is the ironey, when America decided to put a man in the highest, honerable office in the nation, a man and they did 2 already one draft dodged and one got daddy to hide him in others words we call it the rich mans draft dodge. When a nation put these men in this office is should of been a sign toall AMerica to its veteran to its mlitary, America has lost its morals and ethics and they don't care about us, if they did and if they cared about the sacrfices many gave to protect this great country they would of never put a DRAFT DOGGER AS PRESIDENT. The nation might as well spit on all of us, such disrespect from a nation. Even know veteran have to fight for everything we get, thats why there is groups like the DAV, we pay for these groups to stay alive to fight for us, becuaseo our government won't, our governmnet gives alot of LIP service. I'm a women veteran where they have lost my medical and military records and because of there incomptence. I have to pay. I have tried for years with a college degree to get a government job and all I seen is civilians hired over me and these are the no brainer gs5 gs6 jobs, that have a good pay. Women veterans are still disrespected the most and still have to go through more bs to get something. But, what I seen women veterans have to fight the most but veterans, all veterans, there is anti sentiment from our own Federal hiring agencies. It seems we have may anti veteran , and anti Americans doing hiring, that should not be in that job. The points and even haveing a husband who is 100 percent disables those points are worthless as the paper there written on, until our politicians demand investigations and audits and hearings and make laws that do not have zilions of loop holes then veteran will be treated like DIrt. When the DAV puts out an articw the VA only hired 30 percent veterans and 8 percent are disabled, there somethinbg wrong with the system. THERE NEEDS TO BE LAWS WHERE ENLISTED VETERANS WITH HR DEGREES HAVE TO BE IN EACH HIRING AGENCY. ther need to be laws thats all ferderal agencys must followw, like when you send out a denial letter the person you hired must be on that letter, that is public information. The Air Force puts the name, the VA and many others want you to do FOIA request,which is wrong. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE DOING AUDITS ON ALL AGENCIES TO SEE WHO, HOW THEY ARE HIRING TO INVESTIGATE WHY THEY BYPASSED VETERANS. SEE NOW THEY ARE NOW DENYIGN MY COMPENSATION BECAUSE THEY LOST MY MEDICAL RECORDS AND I HAVE TO WAIT TO THE END OF THE WORLD NDO HEARING, WHEN MY DD214 WVWN SAYS THAT I WAS DENIED AND i'M OWED A PHYSICAL. NOPE, THEN WHEN I TRY TO GET A JOB FROM SAME FOLKS MORE DENIAL. What I learned stay home like the rest, why serve so you can go through the disrespect and the incomptence, and for one thing don't get hurt. God bless us all and I hope our Government wakes up tommarrow with some ethics and morals. You want to know the truth, I’m a women veteran and I never seen so much anti veteran sentiment comming from a government that you served and protected maybe Senator or Rep Mich- Micheal Bachman is right we need to look who is working for the government and that is senator down to who we have n the Human resource offices. One thibg that is fact and even the Federal Times publshed artticle called snubbing, that veteran prefernce has too many loop holes in it. It is not worth the paper it is written on all these Federal agenices do is go aroubd the lae, they use words like “option” it should be no option it should be veteran first and what i mean is there is 41 speacial authorities, veterans are one those special authorites, the handicap and what i mean the handicap nit by service but by nature, there own families, they are equal to us. this is wrong. We should as vbeerans be priority one inhiring we served our country and we should be able to get a job quicker then someone that stay home, or dodge the draft then some one who lost a limb protecting America. Here is the ironey, when America decided to put a man in the highest, honerable office in the nation, a man and they did 2 already one draft dodged and one got daddy to hide him in others words we call it the rich mans draft dodge. When a nation put these men in this office is should of been a sign toall AMerica to its veteran to its mlitary, America has lost its morals and ethics and they don’t care about us, if they did and if they cared about the sacrfices many gave to protect this great country they would of never put a DRAFT DOGGER AS PRESIDENT. The nation might as well spit on all of us, such disrespect from a nation. Even know veteran have to fight for everything we get, thats why there is groups like the DAV, we pay for these groups to stay alive to fight for us, becuaseo our government won’t, our governmnet gives alot of LIP service. I’m a women veteran where they have lost my medical and military records and because of there incomptence. I have to pay. I have tried for years with a college degree to get a government job and all I seen is civilians hired over me and these are the no brainer gs5 gs6 jobs, that have a good pay. Women veterans are still disrespected the most and still have to go through more bs to get something. But, what I seen women veterans have to fight the most but veterans, all veterans, there is anti sentiment from our own Federal hiring agencies. It seems we have may anti veteran , and anti Americans doing hiring, that should not be in that job. The points and even haveing a husband who is 100 percent disables those points are worthless as the paper there written on, until our politicians demand investigations and audits and hearings and make laws that do not have zilions of loop holes then veteran will be treated like DIrt. When the DAV puts out an articw the VA only hired 30 percent veterans and 8 percent are disabled, there somethinbg wrong with the system. THERE NEEDS TO BE LAWS WHERE ENLISTED VETERANS WITH HR DEGREES HAVE TO BE IN EACH HIRING AGENCY. ther need to be laws thats all ferderal agencys must followw, like when you send out a denial letter the person you hired must be on that letter, that is public information. The Air Force puts the name, the VA and many others want you to do FOIA request,which is wrong. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMEONE DOING AUDITS ON ALL AGENCIES TO SEE WHO, HOW THEY ARE HIRING TO INVESTIGATE WHY THEY BYPASSED VETERANS.
SEE NOW THEY ARE NOW DENYIGN MY COMPENSATION BECAUSE THEY LOST MY MEDICAL RECORDS AND I HAVE TO WAIT TO THE END OF THE WORLD NDO HEARING, WHEN MY DD214 WVWN SAYS THAT I WAS DENIED AND i’M OWED A PHYSICAL. NOPE, THEN WHEN I TRY TO GET A JOB FROM SAME FOLKS MORE DENIAL. What I learned stay home like the rest, why serve so you can go through the disrespect and the incomptence, and for one thing don’t get hurt. God bless us all and I hope our Government wakes up tommarrow with some ethics and morals.

]]> By: jack simmons http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-57856 jack simmons Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:46:48 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-57856 I love our country, and served from 70 to 1990. There was no help when we got out. My wife and I and our son surived on small check and a newspaper job, 7 days a week. Got me a job at a school and wife went to work as a sub. She started to get sick and we went to the emergency room many times. She died about 8 months later with liver cancer. Her miltary doctor never got the sickness wright. When I went to talk to some one at the hospital, I was met with lots of excuses and no real answer. When I called the miltary lawers in the army times, they said it was too late.6 yrs later, with bad credit, son who put my new wife andI in serous debt, cant get a rrmortgage, I'm not meeting their criteria. Tell me what We can do.I amso discouraged. I feel as though the vetren's affairs let me down. People wasn't saying no when we transported war heads or guarded important places. I am 60% disabled and my parents are dead. The only family I have is my wife and kids.I now understand what the other vetrens told me. Its mind over matter vets don't matter and the civilians don't mind as long as they have lip service. 580 678 0153 I love our country, and served from 70 to 1990. There was no help when we got out. My wife and I and our son surived on small check and a newspaper job, 7 days a week. Got me a job at a school and wife went to work as a sub. She started to get sick and we went to the emergency room many times. She died about 8 months later with liver cancer. Her miltary doctor never got the sickness wright. When I went to talk to some one at the hospital, I was met with lots of excuses and no real answer. When I called the miltary lawers in the army times, they said it was too late.6 yrs later, with bad credit, son who put my new wife andI in serous debt, cant get a rrmortgage, I’m not meeting their criteria. Tell me what We can do.I amso discouraged. I feel as though the vetren’s affairs let me down. People wasn’t saying no when we transported war heads or guarded important places. I am 60% disabled and my parents are dead. The only family I have is my wife and kids.I now understand what the other vetrens told me. Its mind over matter vets don’t matter and the civilians don’t mind as long as they have lip service. 580 678 0153

]]> By: C.V. Compton Shaw http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-56404 C.V. Compton Shaw Mon, 01 Jun 2009 01:11:23 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-56404 Veterans of the War in Vietnam were taxed through both their duty in Vietnam itself and the very low wages that they were paid while in the armed services. Then, upon their return to the USA,they faced very aggressive and pervasive employment discrimination and discrimination in education which is still prevalent and pervasive. Apparently, other veterans of other wars are now experiencing the same. At the same time, those who have not served and/or who would not have to serve in the military, especially in the combat arms, women and others, receive preferential treatment, by law, in employment and education. One of the members of my infantry squad in Vietnam developed severe and disabling PTSD not from the severe combat that he experienced in Vietnam but from the insulting, demeaning, and discriminatory treatment that he received in the USA upon his return. He died from the same about 15 years ago! George Washington stated that the willingness of men to serve in our armed forces in a conflict will depend on how well veterans of previous wars are treated. Given the aforementioned severe injustices to veterans, that willingness to serve will not be forth coming. Given that female fertility (number of births in the USA) is decreasing, the decline of marriage in the USA, the increase of illegitimate births, and the affects of feminism on our society, concomitant with the aforementioned, the military will have increasing difficulty finding the quantity and quality of men will and able to serve in our military. We had a saying in Vietnam: "What goes around-comes around!" Veterans of the War in Vietnam were taxed through both their duty in Vietnam itself and the very low wages that they were paid while in the armed services. Then, upon their return to the USA,they faced very aggressive and pervasive employment discrimination and discrimination in education which is still prevalent and pervasive. Apparently, other veterans of other wars are now experiencing the same. At the same time, those who have not served and/or who would not have to serve in the military, especially in the combat arms, women and others, receive preferential treatment, by law, in employment and education. One of the members of my infantry squad in Vietnam developed severe and disabling PTSD not from the severe combat that he experienced in Vietnam but from the insulting, demeaning, and discriminatory treatment that he received in the USA upon his return.
He died from the same about 15 years ago!
George Washington stated that the willingness of men to serve in our armed forces in a conflict will depend on how well veterans of previous wars are treated. Given the aforementioned severe injustices to veterans, that willingness to serve will not be forth coming.
Given that female fertility (number of births in the USA) is decreasing, the decline of marriage in the USA, the increase of illegitimate births, and the affects of feminism on our society, concomitant with the aforementioned, the military will have increasing difficulty finding the quantity and quality of men will and able to serve in our military.
We had a saying in Vietnam: “What goes around-comes around!”

]]> By: Massimiliano Valentino http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77/comment-page-1#comment-54170 Massimiliano Valentino Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:08:14 +0000 http://threeworldwars.com/blog/posts/77#comment-54170 I can't understand this. I'd be proud to have colleagues who served their country working with me, even more hiring them, no matter which war or peace-keeping mission. I can’t understand this.

I’d be proud to have colleagues who served their country working with me, even more hiring them, no matter which war or peace-keeping mission.

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